now maybe it's raining, maybe it's not, but we'll have to live with, it and to the extent there's more confidence, i think it's sort of -- there's been a come to jesus moment that this is sort of how it's going to be. whether that's the right thing or wrong thing, i don't know. also, that there seems to be a lot more support here in europe for the economy and a sense that things are actually getting better, a sense that maybe austerity doesn't work, which is a real shift, and, by the way, is a real shift in terms of how republicans are going to have to think about what's going on in the u.s. we talked austerity, austerity, austerity, and they're seeing how that's worked, and everyone is saying we got to find a way to get growth, and that's, of course, the million dollar, trillion dollar question how we get there. >> andrew just said something that struck terror in my heart, which is we may be living on the fiscal cliff from now on. i don't own a caribbeaner, nor do i intend on buying one. that is crazy. the idea that this is just the new normal, please tell me that's not true. please tell me you have thoughts to the contrary.